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JWong再度申請成為臨時管理員

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再度自薦成為臨時管理員。之前曾經擔任臨時管理員，亦是中文維基百科、維基教科書及維基詞典管理員，希望協助巡查及處理站務。--J.Wong 2017年9月29日 (五) 12:31 (UTC)[回覆]

  1. (＋)支持 --WhitePhosphorus（討論） 2017年9月29日 (五) 14:08 (UTC)[回覆]
  2. (＋)支持 --Zest 2017年9月29日 (五) 16:02 (UTC)[回覆]
  3. (＋)支持。--A2093064（討論） 2017年9月30日 (六) 04:09 (UTC)[回覆]
    This user started editing on 24 December 2012 but too few edits.--Jusjih（討論） 2017年10月4日 (三) 01:07 (UTC)[回覆]
  4. (＋)支持，具備豐富的經驗。——Aotfs2013 留於 2017年9月30日 (六) 04:13 (UTC)[回覆]
    This user started editing on 28 September 2017 but not on articles.--Jusjih（討論） 2017年10月4日 (三) 01:07 (UTC)[回覆]
  5. (＋)支持。平方和差（討論） 2017年10月3日 (二) 04:38 (UTC)[回覆]
    This user started editing on 3 October 2017 but not on articles.--Jusjih（討論） 2017年10月4日 (三) 01:07 (UTC)[回覆]
  6. (－)反對。此用戶在維基教科書曾質疑原創研究時，需要六天就自行刪除，不問其他管理員，[1]以及內容不盡然是廣告或宣傳，就任意快速刪除。[2]任此君為管理員，恐有寬於己但苛於人，以及傷害新手之虞。即使其他用戶支持，管理員仍應限一個月，加強關注。This user ever deleted pages on Chinese Wikibooks too fast. Appointing as an administrator might bite new users. Dear stewards: even if supported by others, adminship should be better limited to one month to better watch it.--Jusjih（討論） 2017年10月4日 (三) 01:07 (UTC)[回覆]

    維基語錄編輯數很少，可是Gzdavidwong、Jusjih和Vanished user 1929210三位管理員都不幹活。現在來個活躍度很高的中文維基百科管理員，管他有什麼毛病，至少能做到有人維護。既然要拒絕，那請閣下多巡查巡查維基語錄吧。我想閣下作為維基語錄管理員，一定會看見這句話，而且出於職業敏感會想到這個IP都違反了維基百科的哪些方針。--35.185.144.21 2017年10月4日 (三) 14:03 (UTC)[回覆]

  • Jusjih君︰不如一起討論一下閣下所列頁面囉，五言詩《山巔》，其內容大概就把圓周率編作成五言詩，確確切切是原創研究，要不閣下現在可以提個來源來證明此並非明顯原創研究。不用等多少日，閣下現在能提出證據，在下亦會即時推翻自己決定，恢復此文。至於[3]，「3P1C's Mahjong Site」，此文當初明顯是廣告，至今都仍然保有該文標題，可見一斑。然後，不如看看內容，內容雜亂無章。就算是用「麻雀」為題也是太大。麻雀不同區域有不同玩法。其內容根本稱不上教科書。論傷害新人，對比閣下，在下恐望塵莫及。前維基詞典Wjcd可是閣下迫走的。為了實現自己觀點，而大言不慚「我勉強任用你，就請你更應飲水思源。」然後未作出任何有效溝通之前，[4][5]一直苦苦糾纏。然後，又無視維基教科書社群無共識的情況下，[6]，一再發送電郵予在下，威迫利誘在下辭去維基教科書行政員。如此之人，與大家談傷害新人，可笑之極。
  • Jusjih, let's discuss the pages you listed above. 五言詩《山巔》 (lit. Mountain Peak, five-words poem) is composited of a five words poem according to Pi value. It is obviously an original research. You may now give us a source to prove that it is not a original research. You have been on wikibooks during that period of time. Have you leave any comments on the AFD of this page? Nope. For [7]&3P1C's Mahjong Site, it was obviously an advertisement. Apart from this, the content is disorganized. Mahjong is a game having a very different game rules among different area. For instance, the game rules of Mahjong at Taiwan is very different to that at other places such as GuangZhou, ShangHai, and many other places. That page didn't show this out and didn't clearly point out that which type of Mahjong he is talking about. The topic is still a address of a site. Is that good?
  • OK, talking about biting others on Wiki, how can I "beat" you? Jusjih is a user that really into promoting the abolishment of b'rat of small wiki. You may see there is a lot of RFC raised by him on meta.wiki regarding this aspect. It is totally not a problem to promote a point of view about improving wiki in a proper way. However, Jusjih was forcing others to follow his suggestions. Wjcd who was a b'crat and admin on zh.wikt revealed that Jusjih forced him to resign from b'rat on his userpage. In such a conversation, Jusjih listed out several reasons so that Wjcd should resign from b'crat. Those reasons are arguable, including there is not much bot on wikt. However, I need to raise out a request on village pump of wikt and meta to handle a list of bot which is inactive for several years at June of this year. Apart from those arguable reasons, he also said "我勉強任用你，就請你更應飲水思源。" (you should pay the gratitude to me because I have gave you a chance reluctantly.) to a user who actively contribute to wikt for a very long time. No doubt that, it is an insult. It seems that he was doing nothing on wikt after he have given him the sysop flag. But it is not the truth. Even opposing the proposal on the resignation of all b'crat on zh.wikt can be the reason for Jusjih to urge Wjcd to resign. (Point no. 7 of such message) How disgusting. Eventually, Wjcd cannot withstand about it and he decided to resign and leave zh.wikt ever after. Jusjih didn't stop there. Jusjih proposed to delete Wcjd's userpage because he think that it is an "overly criticism to him". Wjcd does consider that it is a 恐嚇 (threatening) and is obnoxious. [8] Finally, such comments were hidden up because of the mentioned AFD. Although Wjcd stated that it is an email, it is not. Please also see the log of deletion of Wjcd's userpage. Jusjih was there to hind these up. Awful. Far before Jusjih raised out the AFD, Jusjih has deleted the revisions containing the criticism to Jusjih. There is obviously a conflict of interest. It is a norm of the global community requiring sysop not using the admin tools with conflict of interest. After the long discussion at the AFD, Jusjih is the only user think that it is a problem to criticize an Admin on Userpage with the evidences listed. There's no community consensus to support his idea of giving up all b'crat on Chinese small wikis. But he forces others to follow his idea. The next target was me. I was the b'crat of zh.wikibooks. He sent me a lot of email to urge me to resign from b'crat in the way of carrot and stick. [9][10][11] For example, opposing others with some minor problems. [12] I think that it is a harassment. Such a man told us who may bite the newbies. How ridiculous!--J.Wong 2017年10月5日 (四) 07:28 (UTC)[回覆]
看完Jusjih的論述，可以得出結論：Gzdavidwong、Jusjih和Vanished user 1929210三位管理員應該主動辭職。「管理員是責任，不是榮譽」，「不宜留念管理員」……對吧？35.185.144.21 2017年10月5日 (四) 23:50 (UTC)[回覆]
@35.185.144.21：謝絕請求，理由不足。--Jusjih（討論） 2017年10月17日 (二) 04:27 (UTC)[回覆]
這邊沒有行政員，所以僅有報告監管員才能決定結果。（若已撤案就免報監管員。）人非聖賢，孰能無過。吾雖不才，卻請Wong128hk加強禮儀。批評他人時，更要檢討自己。 No bureaucrat here means that only stewards may decide the result. No one is perfect. @Wong128hk： Please improve your politeness, i.e. when criticizing others, better also examine yourself.Jusjih（討論） 2017年10月8日 (日) 04:58 (UTC)[回覆]
「批評他人時，更要檢討自己。」彼此彼此啦。"when criticizing others, better also examine yourself." Likewise. --J.Wong 2017年10月8日 (日) 05:09 (UTC)[回覆]
主張彼此彼此時請注意：
  1. 申請成為管理員就是同意社群檢驗既有作為，是候選人適應社群，非社群適應候選人。
  2. 批評現有以及候選管理員﹑行政員等，是例行不可避免的。Wjcd事件固然遺憾。例如2015年一次[13]，維基共享資源雖辭行政員，但續管理員，不但接受批評，還更輕鬆。謝謝。--Jusjih（討論） 2017年10月17日 (二) 04:27 (UTC)[回覆]
真是可笑，一句遺憾就可以去肆意攻擊其他用戶，加諸威脅，抹煞他人貢獻，再將抨擊留言刪去。然後，今日就可以大刺刺去教人如何做管理員，如何競選。閣下可以翻查在下各維基競選頁，以至現行執行權限之站務頁面，在下何處不接受批評。閣下一而再、再而三騷擾其他用戶，以闡釋自身觀點，是名符其實的擾亂。--J.Wong 2017年10月17日 (二) 11:44 (UTC)[回覆]
  1. (＋)支持，是可信的用戶，友善且在維基百科具有一定經驗。Richard923888（討論） 2017年10月23日 (一) 15:36 (UTC)[回覆]

已由監管員MF-Warburg任命，任期至2018年1月30日，為期三個月。——Aotfs2013 留於 2017年11月1日 (三) 00:49 (UTC)[回覆]

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