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JWong再度申请成为临时管理员

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再度自荐成为临时管理员。之前曾经担任临时管理员，亦是中文维基百科、维基教科书及维基词典管理员，希望协助巡查及处理站务。--J.Wong 2017年9月29日 (五) 12:31 (UTC)[回复]

  1. (＋)支持 --WhitePhosphorus（讨论） 2017年9月29日 (五) 14:08 (UTC)[回复]
  2. (＋)支持 --Zest 2017年9月29日 (五) 16:02 (UTC)[回复]
  3. (＋)支持。--A2093064（讨论） 2017年9月30日 (六) 04:09 (UTC)[回复]
    This user started editing on 24 December 2012 but too few edits.--Jusjih（讨论） 2017年10月4日 (三) 01:07 (UTC)[回复]
  4. (＋)支持，具备丰富的经验。——Aotfs2013 留于 2017年9月30日 (六) 04:13 (UTC)[回复]
    This user started editing on 28 September 2017 but not on articles.--Jusjih（讨论） 2017年10月4日 (三) 01:07 (UTC)[回复]
  5. (＋)支持。平方和差（讨论） 2017年10月3日 (二) 04:38 (UTC)[回复]
    This user started editing on 3 October 2017 but not on articles.--Jusjih（讨论） 2017年10月4日 (三) 01:07 (UTC)[回复]
  6. (－)反对。此用户在维基教科书曾质疑原创研究时，需要六天就自行删除，不问其他管理员，[1]以及内容不尽然是广告或宣传，就任意快速删除。[2]任此君为管理员，恐有宽于己但苛于人，以及伤害新手之虞。即使其他用户支持，管理员仍应限一个月，加强关注。This user ever deleted pages on Chinese Wikibooks too fast. Appointing as an administrator might bite new users. Dear stewards: even if supported by others, adminship should be better limited to one month to better watch it.--Jusjih（讨论） 2017年10月4日 (三) 01:07 (UTC)[回复]

    维基语录编辑数很少，可是Gzdavidwong、Jusjih和Vanished user 1929210三位管理员都不干活。现在来个活跃度很高的中文维基百科管理员，管他有什么毛病，至少能做到有人维护。既然要拒绝，那请阁下多巡查巡查维基语录吧。我想阁下作为维基语录管理员，一定会看见这句话，而且出于职业敏感会想到这个IP都违反了维基百科的哪些方针。--35.185.144.21 2017年10月4日 (三) 14:03 (UTC)[回复]

  • Jusjih君︰不如一起讨论一下阁下所列页面啰，五言诗《山巅》，其内容大概就把圆周率编作成五言诗，确确切切是原创研究，要不阁下现在可以提个来源来证明此并非明显原创研究。不用等多少日，阁下现在能提出证据，在下亦会即时推翻自己决定，恢复此文。至于[3]，“3P1C's Mahjong Site”，此文当初明显是广告，至今都仍然保有该文标题，可见一斑。然后，不如看看内容，内容杂乱无章。就算是用“麻雀”为题也是太大。麻雀不同区域有不同玩法。其内容根本称不上教科书。论伤害新人，对比阁下，在下恐望尘莫及。前维基词典Wjcd可是阁下迫走的。为了实现自己观点，而大言不惭“我勉强任用你，就请你更应饮水思源。”然后未作出任何有效沟通之前，[4][5]一直苦苦纠缠。然后，又无视维基教科书社群无共识的情况下，[6]，一再发送电邮予在下，威迫利诱在下辞去维基教科书行政员。如此之人，与大家谈伤害新人，可笑之极。
  • Jusjih, let's discuss the pages you listed above. 五言诗《山巅》 (lit. Mountain Peak, five-words poem) is composited of a five words poem according to Pi value. It is obviously an original research. You may now give us a source to prove that it is not a original research. You have been on wikibooks during that period of time. Have you leave any comments on the AFD of this page? Nope. For [7]&3P1C's Mahjong Site, it was obviously an advertisement. Apart from this, the content is disorganized. Mahjong is a game having a very different game rules among different area. For instance, the game rules of Mahjong at Taiwan is very different to that at other places such as GuangZhou, ShangHai, and many other places. That page didn't show this out and didn't clearly point out that which type of Mahjong he is talking about. The topic is still a address of a site. Is that good?
  • OK, talking about biting others on Wiki, how can I "beat" you? Jusjih is a user that really into promoting the abolishment of b'rat of small wiki. You may see there is a lot of RFC raised by him on meta.wiki regarding this aspect. It is totally not a problem to promote a point of view about improving wiki in a proper way. However, Jusjih was forcing others to follow his suggestions. Wjcd who was a b'crat and admin on zh.wikt revealed that Jusjih forced him to resign from b'rat on his userpage. In such a conversation, Jusjih listed out several reasons so that Wjcd should resign from b'crat. Those reasons are arguable, including there is not much bot on wikt. However, I need to raise out a request on village pump of wikt and meta to handle a list of bot which is inactive for several years at June of this year. Apart from those arguable reasons, he also said "我勉强任用你，就请你更应饮水思源。" (you should pay the gratitude to me because I have gave you a chance reluctantly.) to a user who actively contribute to wikt for a very long time. No doubt that, it is an insult. It seems that he was doing nothing on wikt after he have given him the sysop flag. But it is not the truth. Even opposing the proposal on the resignation of all b'crat on zh.wikt can be the reason for Jusjih to urge Wjcd to resign. (Point no. 7 of such message) How disgusting. Eventually, Wjcd cannot withstand about it and he decided to resign and leave zh.wikt ever after. Jusjih didn't stop there. Jusjih proposed to delete Wcjd's userpage because he think that it is an "overly criticism to him". Wjcd does consider that it is a 恐吓 (threatening) and is obnoxious. [8] Finally, such comments were hidden up because of the mentioned AFD. Although Wjcd stated that it is an email, it is not. Please also see the log of deletion of Wjcd's userpage. Jusjih was there to hind these up. Awful. Far before Jusjih raised out the AFD, Jusjih has deleted the revisions containing the criticism to Jusjih. There is obviously a conflict of interest. It is a norm of the global community requiring sysop not using the admin tools with conflict of interest. After the long discussion at the AFD, Jusjih is the only user think that it is a problem to criticize an Admin on Userpage with the evidences listed. There's no community consensus to support his idea of giving up all b'crat on Chinese small wikis. But he forces others to follow his idea. The next target was me. I was the b'crat of zh.wikibooks. He sent me a lot of email to urge me to resign from b'crat in the way of carrot and stick. [9][10][11] For example, opposing others with some minor problems. [12] I think that it is a harassment. Such a man told us who may bite the newbies. How ridiculous!--J.Wong 2017年10月5日 (四) 07:28 (UTC)[回复]
看完Jusjih的论述，可以得出结论：Gzdavidwong、Jusjih和Vanished user 1929210三位管理员应该主动辞职。“管理员是责任，不是荣誉”，“不宜留念管理员”……对吧？35.185.144.21 2017年10月5日 (四) 23:50 (UTC)[回复]
@35.185.144.21：谢绝请求，理由不足。--Jusjih（讨论） 2017年10月17日 (二) 04:27 (UTC)[回复]
这边没有行政员，所以仅有报告监管员才能决定结果。（若已撤案就免报监管员。）人非圣贤，孰能无过。吾虽不才，却请Wong128hk加强礼仪。批评他人时，更要检讨自己。 No bureaucrat here means that only stewards may decide the result. No one is perfect. @Wong128hk： Please improve your politeness, i.e. when criticizing others, better also examine yourself.Jusjih（讨论） 2017年10月8日 (日) 04:58 (UTC)[回复]
“批评他人时，更要检讨自己。”彼此彼此啦。"when criticizing others, better also examine yourself." Likewise. --J.Wong 2017年10月8日 (日) 05:09 (UTC)[回复]
主张彼此彼此时请注意：
  1. 申请成为管理员就是同意社群检验既有作为，是候选人适应社群，非社群适应候选人。
  2. 批评现有以及候选管理员﹑行政员等，是例行不可避免的。Wjcd事件固然遗憾。例如2015年一次[13]，维基共享资源虽辞行政员，但续管理员，不但接受批评，还更轻松。谢谢。--Jusjih（讨论） 2017年10月17日 (二) 04:27 (UTC)[回复]
真是可笑，一句遗憾就可以去肆意攻击其他用户，加诸威胁，抹煞他人贡献，再将抨击留言删去。然后，今日就可以大刺刺去教人如何做管理员，如何竞选。阁下可以翻查在下各维基竞选页，以至现行执行权限之站务页面，在下何处不接受批评。阁下一而再、再而三骚扰其他用户，以阐释自身观点，是名符其实的扰乱。--J.Wong 2017年10月17日 (二) 11:44 (UTC)[回复]
  1. (＋)支持，是可信的用户，友善且在维基百科具有一定经验。Richard923888（讨论） 2017年10月23日 (一) 15:36 (UTC)[回复]

已由监管员MF-Warburg任命，任期至2018年1月30日，为期三个月。——Aotfs2013 留于 2017年11月1日 (三) 00:49 (UTC)[回复]

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