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互助客棧用於進行和維基語錄有關的討論,當你感到困惑、無助、恐懼、憤怒,或是能給予他人幫助時,都可以在這裏發言。請將新的話題添加於頁面的最底端,並使用四個浪紋(~~~~,也可以點選編輯工具列上的簽名圖標)給你的帖子簽名!

  • 歡迎所有新來者及老居民!如果您對於維基語錄有任何疑問,此地將會有人爲您解答。
  • 在提出問題前,請先看看問題是否已經在常見問題解答幫助中被解答。
  • 為了大家方便閱讀,請在問題或答案之後簽名:打四個波浪號(~~~~)。保存頁面之後,電腦會自動顯示出名字和時間。
  • 問題及其解答並不會永遠留在這頁(否則這頁將變得太長而不能被編輯。)若過了一段時間再沒有活動,資料會被移到有關的部份(如常見問題)、存於檔案或是被刪除。
  • 所以請爲您的討論附上日期及題目以便我們進行這一工作。

現在就參與進來,加入討論吧!

寫個新的論題
這裏的討論將定期清理並存檔,同時會儘可能移動到與討論主題有關的對話頁。


已移動到其他地方的討論在存檔中。

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如果需要尋求管理員幫助,例如申請頁面保護、申請IP封鎖例外權、投訴用戶、作出編輯請求等,也可以在這裏提出請求。

請求為首頁每日名言提供feed支持[編輯]

參考mw:Extension:FeaturedFeedsmw:Extension:FeaturedFeeds/WMF_deployment,需要設置MediaWiki:Ffeed-qotd-page,MediaWiki:Ffeed-qotd-title,MediaWiki:Ffeed-qotd-short-title,MediaWiki:Ffeed-qotd-desc,MediaWiki:Ffeed-qotd-entry即可--Shizhao討論) 2020年7月29日 (三) 02:49 (UTC)[回覆]

關於"維基語錄:收錄範圍"[編輯]

@Rowe Wilson Frederisk Holme:可否將維基語錄:收錄範圍借鑑英文頁面擴充一下。今天看了英文規範,感覺自己剛來對維基語錄認識有偏差,建了部分可建可不建的低質量頁面。--Xixshnsh討論) 2020年9月17日 (四) 20:03 (UTC)[回覆]

我認為應該收錄言論有一定影響力的網絡人物,即使這些人物不符合維基百科關注度標準(例如程浩,只因一起事件知名)。--GZWDer討論) 2020年9月18日 (五) 23:55 (UTC)[回覆]
@GZWDer:這一點認同。主要是希望維基語錄:收錄範圍增加以下內容:添加的語錄要有來源或出處,現在沒有來源的語錄太多了;英維中關於誹謗內容是否收錄的規範;英維中對言論價值的評價標準也很詳細,可以借鑑一部分;包括你說的這種情況等各種細節問題也可以說明一下。
對於w:WP:1E適當放寬來多收錄有價值內容的這個主意不錯,我回頭看看英維方面的表述。🤔--Rowe Wilson Frederisk Holme討論) 2020年11月1日 (日) 18:19 (UTC)[回覆]
然後維基語錄:收錄範圍依然像現在一樣,僅供參考,只是寫得更詳細了。--Xixshnsh討論) 2020年9月26日 (六) 08:45 (UTC)[回覆]
  • 抱歉上個月一直很忙所以忽略了許多事情,對於擴充我會嘗試抽時間去做的。(目前積壓的優先級較高的事情還有維基新聞的Logo、維基百科的幾篇條目還有為Commons製作花札樣圖,所以可能需要一陣子來處理,如果其他人有能力的話也歡迎在我之前提前去做。)--Rowe Wilson Frederisk Holme討論) 2020年11月1日 (日) 18:19 (UTC)[回覆]

12月14日每日名言似乎署名錯誤[編輯]

12月14日每日名言「對驕傲的人不要謙遜,對謙遜的人不要驕傲。」署名托瑪斯·傑弗遜,但網上大多署名傑斐遜·戴維斯,傑斐遜·戴維斯相似的英文名言為「Never be haughty to the humble or humble to the haughty.」--Xixshnsh討論) 2020年9月26日 (六) 08:19 (UTC)[回覆]

  • 有具體可靠的來源主張是戴維斯的名言嗎,有的話以後者為準將前面一個不確定的先撤掉也行,避免傳播擴散錯誤資訊。--Rowe Wilson Frederisk Holme討論) 2020年11月1日 (日) 18:23 (UTC)[回覆]

有關胡志穎的語錄[編輯]

胡志穎的語錄是在去年4月創建的, 其中有28段胡志穎在各著作中的內容。

我曾在去年9月提報刪除, 後來因為多人反對, 我已取消刪除。

其中不少較長篇幅引用的內容, 例其中引用自《藝術無常論》的語錄, 長度為454個字。 我目前的想法是:胡志穎的語錄也許不用刪除,但內容可能需要再加以精簡。想請大家看一下,並提供意見。謝謝--Wolfch討論) 2021年3月15日 (一) 05:07 (UTC)[回覆]

  • 放棄刪除是一大遺憾。Ohtashinichiro討論) 2021年3月16日 (二) 11:24 (UTC)[回覆]
    • 維基語錄現狀:
      • 維基語錄沒有明確收錄標準,習慣上是百科收錄的主題,語錄也可以收錄;百科不收錄的主題,語錄也不收錄。
      • 維基語錄沒有限制收錄篇幅,只要不超出合理使用的限度即可。
      • 維基語錄作為語錄,不禁止也不應當禁止第一手來源。引用作者本人出版的內容是沒有問題的。
      • 維基語錄沒有社群,不太可能就一項方針指引達成共識。
    • 所以即使看着這條語錄感到很不爽,知道編寫者就是來打廣告的,但並沒有能刪除的理由。不過看百科全書條目,51條參考文獻中似乎沒有能夠證明關注度的參考來源(進一步講,這51個參考文獻中,要麼是本人出版的內容,要麼是其他人對本人的淺顯的提及,均不符合第三方、可靠來源、深入介紹的要求,嚴格卡關注度的話,百科全書中「胡志穎」條目根本就不應該存在),是不是可以先給百科條目提刪,等百科條目刪掉之後再來刪語錄?--高文海討論) 2021年3月16日 (二) 12:41 (UTC)[回覆]
      • 謝謝意見,只是我目前不太想處理「胡志穎」維基條目的提刪,我覺得該條目寫作方式有不少調整空間,但關注度應該ok。--Wolfch討論) 2021年3月16日 (二) 15:33 (UTC)[回覆]

我目前的想法是用Google來確認,若語錄中的內容可以用Google到其他網頁(不是原始來源的網頁版)有這部份的內容, 那就保留, 不然就刪除。在搜尋過程有發現胡志穎 Wise Words, 有些語句在此網站中可以找到, 但在其他網站中找不到的, 我也考慮刪除。

依上述的標準來看, 「我堅信人類具有無法分辨真實與虛幻、藝術與非藝術界限的天賦秉性,藝術家也不例外,過去、現在、未來都是如此。」有出現在訪談:胡志穎裝置《安徒生童話》在紐約現代藝術博物館,這個語錄會保留,其他的語錄應該都會刪除。--Wolfch討論) 2021年3月18日 (四) 00:55 (UTC)[回覆]

已進行修改--Wolfch討論) 2021年3月25日 (四) 04:37 (UTC)[回覆]

Module:Documentation[編輯]

錯誤導入wp的Template:documentation後,若欲回退至舊版本,則您不能編輯此修訂版本,因為它的內容模型是Scribunto,這與當前頁面wikitext的內容模型不同。--Sayonzei討論) 2021年4月19日 (一) 07:02 (UTC)[回覆]

@Sayonzei:不留重定向移動試試,刪除權限只有這種繞法。 EdwardAlexanderCrowley討論) 2021年4月19日 (一) 14:39 (UTC)[回覆]
已將原頁面移至User:Qnm/Documentation,並手動寫入新wiki版本。管理員可以刪除或合併User:Qnm/DocumentationEdwardAlexanderCrowley討論) 2021年4月20日 (二) 07:02 (UTC)[回覆]

Suggested Values[編輯]

Timur Vorkul (WMDE) 2021年4月22日 (四) 19:36 (UTC)[回覆]

Universal Code of Conduct News – Issue 1[編輯]

Universal Code of Conduct News
Issue 1, June 2021Read the full newsletter


Welcome to the first issue of Universal Code of Conduct News! This newsletter will help Wikimedians stay involved with the development of the new code, and will distribute relevant news, research, and upcoming events related to the UCoC.

Please note, this is the first issue of UCoC Newsletter which is delivered to all subscribers and projects as an announcement of the initiative. If you want the future issues delivered to your talk page, village pumps, or any specific pages you find appropriate, you need to subscribe here.

You can help us by translating the newsletter issues in your languages to spread the news and create awareness of the new conduct to keep our beloved community safe for all of us. Please add your name here if you want to be informed of the draft issue to translate beforehand. Your participation is valued and appreciated.

  • Affiliate consultations – Wikimedia affiliates of all sizes and types were invited to participate in the UCoC affiliate consultation throughout March and April 2021. (continue reading)
  • 2021 key consultations – The Wikimedia Foundation held enforcement key questions consultations in April and May 2021 to request input about UCoC enforcement from the broader Wikimedia community. (continue reading)
  • Roundtable discussions – The UCoC facilitation team hosted two 90-minute-long public roundtable discussions in May 2021 to discuss UCoC key enforcement questions. More conversations are scheduled. (continue reading)
  • Phase 2 drafting committee – The drafting committee for the phase 2 of the UCoC started their work on 12 May 2021. Read more about their work. (continue reading)
  • Diff blogs – The UCoC facilitators wrote several blog posts based on interesting findings and insights from each community during local project consultation that took place in the 1st quarter of 2021. (continue reading)

--MediaWiki message delivery討論) 2021年6月11日 (五) 23:05 (UTC)[回覆]

Wikimania 2021: Individual Program Submissions[編輯]

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Dear all,

Wikimania 2021 will be hosted virtually for the first time in the event's 15-year history. Since there is no in-person host, the event is being organized by a diverse group of Wikimedia volunteers that form the Core Organizing Team (COT) for Wikimania 2021.

Event Program - Individuals or a group of individuals can submit their session proposals to be a part of the program. There will be translation support for sessions provided in a number of languages. See more information here.

Below are some links to guide you through;

Please note that the deadline for submission is 18th June 2021.

Announcements- To keep up to date with the developments around Wikimania, the COT sends out weekly updates. You can view them in the Announcement section here.

Office Hour - If you are left with questions, the COT will be hosting some office hours (in multiple languages), in multiple time-zones, to answer any programming questions that you might have. Details can be found here.

Best regards,

MediaWiki message delivery討論) 2021年6月16日 (三) 04:18 (UTC)[回覆]

On behalf of Wikimania 2021 Core Organizing Team

Editing news 2021 #2[編輯]

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Universal Code of Conduct - Enforcement draft guidelines review[編輯]

Please translate this message into Chinese, and start the discussion in the local, Thank you!

The Universal Code of Conduct Phase 2 drafting committee would like comments about the enforcement draft guidelines for the Universal Code of Conduct (UCoC). This review period is planned to begin 17 August 2021.

Community and staff members collaborated to develop these draft guidelines based on consultations, discussions, and research. These guidelines are not final but you can help move the progress forward. Provide comments about these guidelines by 17 October 2021. The committee will be revising the guidelines based upon community input.

Everyone may share comments in a number of places. Facilitators welcome comments in any language on the draft review talk page or by email. Comments can also be shared on talk pages of translations, at local discussions, or during round-table discussions and conversation hours.

There are planned live discussions about the UCoC enforcement draft guidelines:

Wikimania 2021 session (recorded 16 August)
Conversation hours - 24 August, 31 August, 7 September @ 03:00 UTC & 14:00 UTC
Roundtable calls - 18 September @ 03:00 UTC & 15:00 UTC

The facilitation team supporting this review period hopes to reach a large number of communities. Having a shared understanding is important. If you do not see a conversation happening in your community, please organize a discussion. Facilitators can assist you in setting up the conversations.

Discussions will be summarized and presented to the drafting committee every two weeks. The summaries will be published here.

Please let me know if you have any questions. --MediaWiki message delivery討論) 2021年8月18日 (三) 04:01 (UTC)[回覆]

Wikimedia Foundation Election 2021 is now stated[編輯]

Voting for the 2021 Board of Trustees election is now open. Candidates from the community were asked to submit their candidacy. After a three week long Call for Candidates, there are 19 candidates for the 2021 election.

The Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees oversees the Wikimedia Foundation's operations. The Board wants to improve their competences and diversity as a team. They have shared the areas of expertise that they are hoping to cover with new trustees.

The Wikimedia movement has the opportunity to select candidates who have the qualities to best serve the needs of the movement for the next several years. The Board is expected to select the four most voted candidates to serve as trustees. This term starts in September and lasts for three years. Learn more about the Board of Trustees in this short video.

Vote now until August 31.

Below is some useful information about the election process.

Learn more about the candidates

Candidates from across the movement have submitted their candidatures. Learn about each candidate to inform your vote. The community submitted questions for the candidates to answer during the campaign. Candidates answered the list of community questions collated by the Elections Committee on Meta.

Vote

Voting for the 2021 Board of Trustees election opened on 18 August 2021 and closes on 31 August 2021. The Elections Committee chose Single Transferable Vote for the voting system. The benefit of this is voters can rank their choices in order of preference. Learn more about voting requirements, how to vote, and frequently asked questions about voting.

Please help in the selection of those people who best fit the needs of the movement at this time. Vote and spread the word so more people can vote for candidates. Those selected will help guide the Wikimedia Foundation and support the needs of the movement over the next few years.

Best,

The Elections Committee -- User:YKo (WMF) via MediaWiki message delivery討論) 2021年8月18日 (三) 04:21 (UTC)[回覆]

為互助客棧引入topic list[編輯]

如題,這樣可以更好的追蹤討論,不知大家意見如何。—— Eric Liu留言百科用戶頁 2021年8月25日 (三) 14:07 (UTC)[回覆]

Thank you for participating 2021 Board election[編輯]

Thank you for participating in the 2021 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election! Voting closed August 31 at 23:59. The official data, including the four most voted candidates, will be announced as soon as the Elections Committee completes their review of the ballots. The official announcement of the new trustees appointed will happen later, once the selected candidates have been confirmed by the Board.

6,946 community members from 216 wiki projects have voted. This makes 10.2% global participation, 1.1% higher than in the last Board elections. In 2017, 5167 people from 202 wiki projects cast their vote. A full analysis is planned to be published in a few days when the confirmed results are announced. In the meantime, you can check the data produced during the election.

Diversity was an important goal with these elections. Messages about the Board election were translated into 61 languages. This outreach worked well. There were 70 communities with eligible voters voting in this election for the first time. With your help, next year’s Board of Trustees election will be even better. MediaWiki message delivery討論) via MediaWiki message delivery討論) 2021年9月2日 (四) 04:52 (UTC)[回覆]

The 2022 Community Wishlist Survey will happen in January[編輯]

SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 2021年9月7日 (二) 00:23 (UTC)[回覆]

維基媒體基金會理事會理事選舉結果發表[編輯]

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感謝各位參與2021年度理事會選舉,此次選舉旨在選出四名新的理事,選舉委員會完整檢視這次的投票屆果,有效票數來自214個專案總計6,873人參與投票,下列四名便是獲得最多得票數的候選人:

  1. Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight
  2. Victoria Doronina
  3. Dariusz Jemielniak
  4. Lorenzo Losa

目前是以社群投票結果列出四名候選人,然而,他們仍未正式成為理事會的一員,候選人仍須經背景審查並達到 Bylaws 列出的標準。理事會暫定會在本月底正式任用新的成員。

請在此閱讀完整公告

--MediaWiki message delivery討論) 2021年9月8日 (三) 12:09 (UTC)[回覆]

Participate in the Universal Code of Conduct Roundtable[編輯]

The Movement Strategy and Governance facilitation team is hosting Roundtable discussions on 18 September 2021 at 03:00 UTC and 15:00 UTC for Wikimedians to talk together about how to enforce the Universal Code of Conduct . These calls are part of the Universal Code of Conduct project Phase 2 Enforcement draft guidelines review (EDGR).

Each session will last for 90 to 120 minutes and translation support for various languages will be provided. Also, sessions in specific languages may also be held depending on demand. Community members are encouraged to sign up in advance and add the topic to discuss during roundtable session.

If you are not able to make the roundtable session, you can provide the comments are at the draft review talk page in any language, talk pages of translations, and local discussions.

For more information, please visit roundtable discussion information page at Meta-wiki. --MediaWiki message delivery討論) 2021年9月10日 (五) 04:29 (UTC)[回覆]

Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee ending 14 September 2021[編輯]

Movement Strategy announces the Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee. The Call opens August 2, 2021 and closes September 14, 2021.

The Committee is expected to represent diversity in the Movement. Diversity includes gender, language, geography, and experience. This comprises participation in projects, affiliates, and the Wikimedia Foundation.

English fluency is not required to become a member. If needed, translation and interpretation support is provided. Members will receive an allowance to offset participation costs. It is US$100 every two months.

We are looking for people who have some of the following skills:

  • Know how to write collaboratively. (demonstrated experience is a plus)
  • Are ready to find compromises.
  • Focus on inclusion and diversity.
  • Have knowledge of community consultations.
  • Have intercultural communication experience.
  • Have governance or organization experience in non-profits or communities.
  • Have experience negotiating with different parties.

The Committee is expected to start with 15 people. If there are 20 or more candidates, a mixed election and selection process will happen. If there are 19 or fewer candidates, then the process of selection without election takes place.

Will you help move Wikimedia forward in this important role? Submit your candidacy here. Please contact strategy2030(_AT_)wikimedia.org with questions.

Xeno (WMF) 2021年9月10日 (五) 17:06 (UTC)[回覆]

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Talk to the Community Tech[編輯]

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Hello!

As we have recently announced, we, the team working on the Community Wishlist Survey, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will take place on September 15th, 23:00 UTC on Zoom, and will last an hour. Click here to join.

Agenda

Format

The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (first three points in the agenda) will be given in English.

We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, and Spanish. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page or send to sgrabarczuk@wikimedia.org.

Natalia Rodriguez (the Community Tech manager) will be hosting this meeting.

Invitation link

See you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (對話) 2021年9月11日 (六) 03:04 (UTC)[回覆]

Movement Charter Drafting Committee - Community Elections to take place October 11 - 24[編輯]

Dear fellow Wikimedians,

This is an update from the Movement Charter process. We have closed the call for candidates on September 14 for the Drafting Committee and now have a pool of candidates with diverse backgrounds to choose from.

The 15 member committee will be selected with a 3-step process:

  • Election process for project communities to elect 7 members of the committee.
  • Selection process for affiliates to select 6 members of the committee.
  • Wikimedia Foundation process to appoint 2 members of the committee.
Communities elect 7 members
This announcement is related to the community elections, which will take place in a time period of 2 weeks from October 11 to October 24. We look forward to a wide participation across the communities to create the committee to curate the writing of the Movement Charter. The Election Results will be published on November 1.
Affiliates select 6 members
Parallel to the election process, all affiliates asked to contribute as well: All affiliates were divided into eight geographic and one 『thematic』 region (check the list), and each region chooses one person who will act as a selector for that region. These 9 selectors will come together to select 6 of the committee (from the same pool of candidates). The selection results will be published on November 1.
Wikimedia Foundation appoints 2 members
Finally, the Wikimedia Foundation will appoint two members to the committee by November 1.

All three processes will be concluded by November 1, 2021, so that the Movement Charter Drafting Committee can start working by then.

For the full context of the Movement Charter, its role, as well the process for its creation, please have a look at Meta. You can also contact us at any time on Telegram or via email (wikimedia2030@wikimedia.org).

Best regards,--MediaWiki message delivery討論) 2021年9月22日 (三) 02:31 (UTC)[回覆]

Universal Code of Conduct Draft Enforcement Guidelines review still needs your ideas and opinions[編輯]

Hello, this is just a reminder that the Universal Code of Conduct Draft Enforcement Guidelines are open for review and comment. The Drafting Committee will start working on revisions and improvement in less than two weeks (October 17), so it is important that you give them your ideas and opinions soon!

There is now a short, simple version of the Draft Guidelines here to make your review easier. If possible, also help translate the short version into more languages!

We will also hold one last conversation hour on October 15, 2021 03:00 and 14:00 UTC.

On behalf of the Drafting Committee, much thanks to everyone who has given ideas so far. We hope to hear from more of you - the Guidelines will be much stronger if more opinions are included.

The Community election of Movement Charter Drafting committee is now open![編輯]

Voting for the election for the members for the Movement Charter drafting committee is now open. In total, 70 Wikimedians from around the world are running for 7 seats in these elections.

Voting is open from October 12 to October 24, 2021.

The committee will consist of 15 members in total: The online communities vote for 7 members, 6 members will be selected by the Wikimedia affiliates through a parallel process, and 2 members will be appointed by the Wikimedia Foundation. The plan is to assemble the committee by November 1, 2021.

Learn about each candidate to inform your vote in the language that you prefer: <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Candidates>

Learn about the Drafting Committee: <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee>

We are piloting a voting advice application for this election. Click yourself through the tool and you will see which candidate is closest to you! Check at <https://mcdc-election-compass.toolforge.org/>

Read the full announcement: <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Movement_Charter/Drafting_Committee/Elections>

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